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Jan 21, 2013 7:00pm EST
in for a second term on the martin luther king jr. holiday leaning on the words of king and lincoln. >> through blood drawn by lash and sword, we learn no union founded on the principles of liberty and equality could survive half slave and half free. >> casting himself in the mold of the great civil rights leader, vowed action on a series of issues from climate change to immigration reform and became the first president to use the word "gay" in the address. >> our gurn noi are not complete until wives, daughters, can earn a wage equal to their efforts. our journey is not complete until our gay brother and sisters are treated like anyone else under the law. >> he offered a bigger defense of entitlement programs. >> we must make the hard choices to reduce the cost of health care and the size of our deficit, but we reject the belief america has to choose between caring for the generation that built this country and investing in the generation that will build its future. >> like every president since fdr, mr. obama started it with a prayer service at st. johns church before departing the white hous
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Jan 20, 2013 2:00am PST
wrote the book on lincoln. >> the white house will hold a private swearing in ceremony for president obama. not to be outdone, on sunday, republicans will hold a private swearing at ceremony for >> the white house will hold a private swearing in ceremony for president obama. not to be outdone, on sunday, republicans will hold a private swearing at ceremony for president obama. er) make mornings special, with fancy feast mornings gourmet cat food. mornings are delicious protein rich entrees with garden veggies and egg. fancy feast mornings. the best ingredient is love. try running four.ning a restaurant is hard, fortunately we've got ink. it gives us 5x the rewards on our internet, phone charges and cable, plus at office supply stores. rewards we put right back into our business. this is the only thing we've ever wanted to do and ink helps us do it. make your mark with ink from chase. >> i barack hussein obama do solemn my swear -- >> i barack hussein obama do solemnly swear -- >> that i will execute faithfully the office of president of the united states. >> doris, i'm excited to fin
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Jan 20, 2013 9:00pm PST
memorable moments. she was awarded the lincoln medal in 2008. she joins me along with douglas brinkley. how are you? >> i'm good and you. >> i want to remind you of an e-mail that you sent out. you talked about conversations you had with dr. martin luther king. tomorrow is mlk day. it couldn't be a more appropriate day i'm sure you would feel for barack obama's second inauguration. in those conversations he felt there may be an african-american president, first black president in the next 40 years. you didn't think it would happen in your lifetime. >> that's true. i'm so excited. i'm so happy about my country that we are growing up. >> how do you think the president -- >> we're growing beyond our ignorance. >> how do you think he's done in his first term and what would you like him to do more of in his second term? >> well, i think he's done the best he could. i think that there were a number of people who as soon as he was elected put their feet down, their heels into the earth and said no matter what he does, no matter how good he is, i will not support him. i will resist his attempts to
CNN
Jan 21, 2013 2:00am PST
the other side of the national mall on the walls of the lincoln memorial are inscribed in my opinion some of the finest words ever written by abraham lincoln in which he faced a bitterly divided country and was able to deliver an address that aimed at unity, brought the country together. and you know, while the challenges we face are different than those that lincoln faced, they are still formidable for this president. our country is deeply divided. we've been through a divided election, which is a lot like what abraham lincoln went through. the challenge for the president is to bring the country together, sound a vision for the country that is eloquent and will inspire americans to come together and get behind him and get behind our elected leaders to work for the good of the country. >> it's interesting you mention lincoln. a lot of people believe his second inaugural address is the last time we had a strong inaugural address. brett o'donnell, thank you. appreciate that. >> good to be with you. >>> the parade, the parties, the pomp, the circumstance, we'll dig into it all on this specia
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Jan 20, 2013 9:30am PST
lincoln. when harry truman was worrying about firing mcarthur, he's reading about mcclellan, what did lincoln do about mcclellan. you think about your own life, learn from your own experiences. he will have learned from this fist term an enormous set of things to take with him to the second term, strengthed and weaknesses. but you can learn from all these guys before you, like learning from your grandparents and great grandparents. great when a president cares about history. >> give me a measure, michael, of how much this president is attuned to history, how much it plays a part of his lady life. i know i've read he tries to find up to three hours a day and night between 9:00 and midnight to read. >> he is above all a writer, so not surprising given what this is his day job is. but, you know, i think the most revealing thing was just after the election he gave that press conference and was asked about second terms. you remember? he said i am very familiar with the literature on second-term overreach. we both loved lyndon johnson. i don't think he ever read two words on second-term ove
FOX News
Jan 19, 2013 1:00am PST
the inauguration. on monday he will place his hands on two bibles. one from abraham lincoln and the other from dr. martin luther king jr. andrew seattle who is with the freedom from religion foundation. mr. stittle, abraham lincoln and dr. king too two amazing american icons you want to take their bibles and remove them from the ceremony. >> i much prefer dr. king's writing on the letter from the birmingham jail where he talks about the white church standing on the sideline mouthing trivialalities and pyes irrelevancy while he does the work of the civil rights movement. >> bill: you must know that dr. king invoked god in almost every speech that he made. >> article 2 section one of the constitution which lays out the oath does not say anything about the word so help me god. it says i will preserve to the best of my ability, preserve, defend and protect the states period. it's kind of ironic that the president is going to amend that in the middle of it. >> bill: do you know why george washington wanted the words god so help me god in? do you know why? >> george washington did not say so help me go
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Jan 17, 2013 12:00pm PST
with the president to ask him favors or get their appointments and, of course, that didn't change with lincoln. changed after garfield who was assassinated but the ranks have really closed around the presidency, really hard to get to him. has that had an affect on the role of the president over the past century? >> that's a great question. first of all, the white house itself was open. up until the of world war ii in europe, people could have picnics on the white house lawn. >> right. >> before then people would stroll into the white house. the president would bump into someone at the white house. people would come and ask the president for jobs. after pearl harbor, that's when the security apparatus goes up around the president. but the other thing to mention is what we're using right now, the power of television. what he will vision has done is in one sense made it more intimate with the president but also created a certain distance as well. >> you know, steve, with he talk about george washington, abraham lincoln, i always put grant in the underappreciated category. there were a lot of clun
FOX News
Jan 20, 2013 8:00am PST
-american manager of a moody bible. and he will use that, and tomorrow, the bible that abraham lincoln used on his inauguration and one used by martin luther king. there you have it, a shot of the blue room, aptly named. >> this is a look inside the white house with chief justice john roberts. let's listen in to the white house for swearing-in of president barack obama. >> please, raise yush right hand and repeat after me, i barack, husays obama do solemnly swear hay will faithfully execute the office of president of the united states and will to the best of my ability preserve, protect and defend... the constitution of the united states. so help you god. >> so help me god. >> congratulations, mr. president. >> thank you mr. chief justice. thank you so much. [applause] >> thank you. >> i did it. all right. thank you, everybody. >> and with that, president obam has started his second term. it's amazing to watch. you saw the president enter the second term, the 44th president of the united states with a swearing-in by the chief justice and megyn kelley. >> i owe wallace a quarter. >> he did use the
CNN
Jan 22, 2013 2:00am PST
and prayers. as he left the west front of the capitol, a nostalgic turned back toward the lincoln memorial. >> i want to take a look out one more time. >> now there were shades of the campaign that the president winning out, success can't mean that a few people are making it and a growing number are barely scratching by. the president acknowledging that bipartisan -- or the lack of bipartisanship here in washington but noted that everyone needs to work together for the good of the country. john? >> dan, that moment at the end of your piece where the president turned around and looked, that was astounding. 23 seconds he stood there and he gazed out at the national mall to let it sink in. it must have been an extraordinary day for him. what does today hold for him after that full night of dancing he had? >> reporter: he heads to the national cathedral. the day after inauguration, the presidents always get a chance to go sit down at an interfaith service, a prayer and prayers are given not only for the president but also the vice president for their second terms. this is historic event that d
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Jan 21, 2013 4:00am PST
in today, along with a bible that belongsed to abraham lincoln. tell me about your father's bible. >> that bible is at least 59 years of age, because in it are markings. such as 5-10-54. he was using this as a bible to meditate and pray and prepare himself for leadership in the church. very tattered. we did a little repairing on it, restoration, so it wouldn't fall apart when the president places his hand on it. >> that would be a bad thing to happen in the middle of the inauguration ceremony. i know you are preparing to speak at ebenezer church today, because, of course, what a great coincidence of timing, today we also celebrate your father's legacy as well, on the same day we inaugurate a president. what will you talk about? how do the two things intersect for you? >> first and foremost, the fact that the president is using daddy's bible is heart warming for me. my father was first and foremost a preacher, pastor, it reminds people of that. that is one of the things i will stress today. we must remember the pastor and preacher, and my father was such a healing lead eer, and so
MSNBC
Jan 15, 2013 3:00am PST
their sauerkraut. >> they were invited to a screening of "lincoln," apparently at the very last minute -- >> nobody's perfect. >> i would think when the president invites you to see a movie at the white house, you might want to go. maybe if you were disagreeable in nature, not fun and quite frankly not interested in getting anywhere on spending, maybe you would decline. look at the president. why don't i play that sound bite again, no matter what you think of his ideologically, joe, wouldn't you want to have a beer with that guy or a beer with mitch mcconnell. >> you keep interrupting. >> we should get a jar. >> should get a jar. he's a likable guy. we spent time with him. i like him an awful lot. he's ae's a likable guy. he hasn't reached out to republicans and he hasn't reached out a lot. when he reached out, they haven't come. he said his daughters don't want to spend that much time with him. he will have a lot of time to play cards. >> get merlot. >> cigarettes. will the president let them smoke? >> coming up. arianna huffington and nbc director chuck todd and "washington post," eugene robinso
FOX News
Jan 20, 2013 1:00pm PST
presidency. lincoln comes to mind. kennedy was beloved after he was assassinated. great line from cicero that was conflict about policies, ask not is the quote. so i think barack obama is different. he is african-american and that is such a trim setting event i think will be going to be studying for years to com. >> heather: brad, what is your take? >> i think to be memorable, unite america and challenge us but also has to inspire us. let's remember that the president has an opportunity to give a patriotic and visionary speech but followed within two weeks with a state of the union that is going to be road map. what is he going to do the next four years? you won't necessarily hear that tomorrow, but will you hear it within the next two weeks. hopefully that will give us more dimension to the inaugural address and what he hopes to accomplish. >> heather: we heard the president has two occasions to talk about his presidency moving forward. we are entering a rare moment in history. president obama faces as president clinton and george w. bush before him the challenge of giving a second inau
FOX News
Jan 21, 2013 3:00am PST
the bible and today the bible is front and center again, his bible and president lincoln's bible. so you have 150 years of the emancipation proclamation and 50 years of the dream and they're represented by those two bibles today. >> gretchen: it's so unbelievable it will be the bible for president obama as he he's celebratory swearing in today. and the youth leader was asking the kids if they knew about martin luther king, jr. and of course many raised hands and what i loved was hearing the variety of answers from, he was a pastor, to he was trying to bring peace to the world, et cetera. and i thought it was wonderful that the kids, obviously, know about the lessons that your uncle brought to this nation. how do you think he would tackle the issue of gun control that we're talking about today? >> well, i believe, i remember and my family, all pictures, including dr. king, and jesus christ when he was in the garden and peter took a sword and chopped off the guard's ear trying to protect jesus and jesus put the guard's ear back on and said i'm here to do a job and it's okay, peter. and he
MSNBC
Jan 18, 2013 5:00pm PST
screening of "lincoln" last month. had mitch mcconnell, john boehner, lamar alexander attended, they were all invited, they would have joined not only nancy pelosi, harry reid but steven spielberg, tommy lee jones. as tip o'neill famously said about his political foe, ronald reagan, love the sinner. hate the sin. when president reagan would invite the speaker, tip o'neill over to the white house for drinks and raise a glass to one another. there's no shortage of parties planned around inauguration 2013. here is hoping it spills over to the next four years and both sides of the aisle make a move to be more social and more civil. and, hence, more productive. that's "hardball" for now. thanks for being with us. "the ed show" with ed schultz, starts right now. >>> good evening, americans. welcome "the ed show" from new york. republicans are raising the white flag. this is "the ed show." let's get to work. >> they will not collect a ransom in exchange for not crashing the american economy. >> the republican game of chicken is over. eric cantore proposes a three-month deal on the debt ceiling.
MSNBC
Jan 22, 2013 3:00am PST
]. >> this was not lincoln, although lincoln's second inaugural is referenced early on in the speech. that was in the middle of the civil war when lincoln gave that. this is not f.d.r., we have nothing to fear but fear itself, in the middle of the gr"great depression." a speech on social justice and injecting into the main fabric of american history and seneca falls and what that meant in 1948, civil rights movement and equality and inject seneca falls and mentioned women about three different times, mentioned stonewall, which when i went to graduate school here at georgetown, stonewall was considered lefty history not in the main fabric of the mainstream books, he threw stonewall in there as if it was a military battle site. and then selma. i thought that made it a historic speech. i can see why the republicans aren't that happy with it. it did seem to be a speech that appealed to the base largely. those reasons and then finally climate, joe, the president not talking about climate in '12, in debates climate didn't come up. the journalist never asked one climate question. i think 50 years from now, climate
FOX Business
Jan 21, 2013 1:00pm EST
that clear. another thing. a man who says he is a fan of abraham lincoln to talk about the blood by the lash and the blood by the sword, approved our history could not talk about equal rights and have the republic survive so long as part of our population was in slavery. he made it sound as if it was some sort of combustible axiom within the nation itself that that occurred rather than the conscious choice of abraham lincoln. and the north, to commit military resources to the nation's future and fate as well as the lives of 300,000 union soldiers who freed the slaves. people need to remember, and this president would do the people of this country a great service and history and reality entered the service if he would acknowledge that 300,000 people from the north engaged in a war of the union to free the slaves. this was not an uprising by slaves. people should remember this. this was not a moment in history in which some league leaders grew up from the south of the north. this was a process of the logical conclusion to my belief, of a nation that was divided at its inception on the issue of
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Jan 19, 2013 5:00am EST
is wrong. >> will you watch the oscars? >> i will, indeed. >> a lot of good movies. have you seen lincoln. >> i have not but i'm told i should. >> he's great. >> he's number two. >> daniel day-lewis. >> tommy lee jones is brilliant.
MSNBC
Jan 15, 2013 10:00pm PST
of the movie "lincoln," and press reports show he invited them, they all inclined to attend. president obama has invited john boehner to six state dinners, boehner declined all six times, he did accept president george bush's to a state dinner for the meaningless queen elizabeth. president obama invited senate minority leader mitch mcconnell to two state dinners, and to celebrate the basketball team from his home state. mcconnell declined all those invitations. and president obama invited all newly elected members of congress to the white house for a reputation. less than half of the freshmen republicans attended. joining me now, howard fineman, in my experience, this socializing thing is the most overrated legislative strategy imaginable. i have never seen it matter in any way at all. if booze could do this it would have fixed a lot of things a lot easier a long time ago. >> yes, of course, and booze consumption in d.c. exceeds that in other years of the country, with the possible exception of las vegas. there was a time, a day and place when i think personal relationships did matter more.
MSNBC
Jan 16, 2013 4:00pm PST
down and their families vulnerable. lincoln and garfield and teddy roosevelt shot at. luckily to be saved. truman was attacked. roosevelt was shot at. kennedy was killed. reagan was almost killed. it's not a joke. >> what this goes to is the big and growing difference between the nra's rank and file who are pretty normal people. >> do they know that the idea of talking about assassinating or endangering the lives of a presidential family hurts the process. then to say let's talk about this daughters. >> there's a lot of nra members who don't like this kind of stuff. they're not talking to their rank and file. they're talking to a hard core base right now. i don't know that's a winning strategy for them over the long haul. >> what is going on? lapierre used to seem his head was screwed on a couple years ago. maybe many years ago. why are they sending him out with this absolute rejectionist position? we're not doing anything on gun clips or background checks. why don't say they you know what? there's common ground here. >> we know that their membership supports what we're talkin
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Jan 21, 2013 7:00pm PST
to it or even if i'm not a king or founding father or lincoln, having that purpose, that sense of direction, the north star is what we should strive for. and striving for things is actually what creates something worthwhile, even if you fail. >> joy, your general reaction? >> i thought it was wonderful, i thought yes, we can, still is the best speech that i have heard. he walked away from that sort of rhetoric, because he needed to communicate basically about policy. this was not about policy. but at the same time it was the most forthright delivery. he took liberalism which has been put aside as somehow being apart from the founding creed, had he said yes, we value individualism, even that little girl born with nothing, has a right, has a shot to have a chance. >> we'll be right back, we'll get one more look. hey! did you know that honey nut cheerios has oats that can help lower cholesterol? and it tastes good? sure does! wow. it's the honey, it makes it taste so... well, would you look at the time... what's the rush? be happy. be healthy. what's the rush? go, go, go, honey what are you do
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Jan 21, 2013 6:00am EST
"lincoln." >> state dinners. >> the majority leader's office called later and said, yeah, we got the invitation that afternoon, four hours beforehand. but you invite congressmen and senators over, one on one, they'll come. >> there is an upside to cooperation. not every battle is one of opposition. begin to reframe the image of the party with the rest of the country, number one. at the end of the day, that's what people want to see, you working with the administration. to joe's point, you don't have to agree with everything, but you can at least stand there and show that we're trying to make the effort. so when you have the noise come out about, well, we want to block him at every turn, that plays on the psyche of the american people. >> mike, what'ses in it f in it republicans? well, the republicans' backs are against the wall. they owned the house of representatives. they have a midterm election in 2014. for those republicans saying, oh, well, we always win midterm electio elections, no, you don't. two elections ago, we get routed by nancy pelosi. >> let's get to a break. we ha
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Jan 19, 2013 3:00am PST
. >> a lot of good movies. have you seen lincoln. >> i have not but i'm told i should. >> he's great. >> he's number two. >> daniel day-lewis. >> tommy lee jones is brilliant. >> and hell of a nice guy here. >> are you still winning, charlie? >> today i am with you. absolutely. >> it's been brilliant to see you again. >> likewise. thank you so much. >> come back again. >> you're an absolute pro. >> thank you. >> i appreciate it. >> charlie sheen. ♪ >>> so help you god? >> so help me god. >>> good morning, everyone, and welcome to this very special edition of "early start weekend." it is saturday, january 19th. i'm randi kaye, coming to you live this morning from the national mall in washington, as we gear up for the 57th presidential inauguration. now, all morning, our cnn political team will be bringing you the very latest on preparations for the big day and the biggest challenges facing president obama in his second term. we have an action-packed show for you. but first, let's bring in my colleague, victor blackwell, who is back in atlanta this morning. victor, i know you have some othe
CNN
Jan 20, 2013 7:00am EST
at as they watch the vice president sworn in for another term will be the lincoln delivering his second inaugural address, perhaps the most famous second inaugural address in history. so, his family will be watching on. he will be sworn in by associate justice sonia sotomayor. this will be the first hispanic associate justice to swear in a vice president, the fourth woman to do so. and he will be placing his hand, the vice president will, on the biden family bible. you will see when it happens, it's a pretty big bible, five inches thick. this is the bible that has been in the family back to the late 1800s and this is the bible that the vice president has been sworn in before,
FOX News
Jan 15, 2013 7:00pm PST
that line, that something has to be done. you cannot-- it's not like he's abraham lincoln, we're not at civil war. >> greta: the line i understand for executive orders on gun control, is that the line? >> no, the line is when you cross from administrative executive orders which deal with his office. >> greta: okay. >> and pass legislation during executive order. >> greta: suppose he says he's going to ban assault weapons with executive order. >> you can't do that, that's against the constitution, the constitution is very clear. >> greta: what would be your first step if he did that. >> i think we outlined multiple avenues. it's defending the constitution in any ways we can legally and that process has many different avenues. we're willing to take those to defend the constitution. i think it the right thing to do. >> greta: and we, do you have any idea how many republicans are with you. >> i know you're going to be on my side, that's two. >> greta: i don't know if i would be on your side, i don't have a dog-- >> when i say we, i think the american people in particular are frust
FOX News
Jan 19, 2013 3:00pm PST
country, or franklin roosevelt, we have nothing to fear but fear itself. or abraham lincoln, with malice towards none in the civil war. it's almost as much the moment, the point we are in history and a president who rises to that moment, unites americans, touches the common spirit, as it is the skill of all my friends who are speech writers coming up with those memorable words. >> arthel: if it's that idea of touching our collective soul and make the best of the moment, as you would say is the best use of an inaugural speech, what do you think the american people want to hear in president obama's second inaugural speech on monday? >> you know, if you think back four years ago, the country was full of hope. it was a real celebration. it was an historic moment. we were maturitying our first african-american president. there was a sense that they were on the verge of a great time of hope. things are definitely different now. we've got a divided country. it's a less historic moment. we got a lot of folks still looking for jobs and can't find them. we've got partisan politics and a paralyzed
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Jan 18, 2013 12:00pm PST
to go with lincoln's second inaugural. >> awesome. >> 1865. >> i remember that. it was a good one. >> as i said, the video footage is a little grainy. the audio wasn't there. i was thinking of something else. there's a moment i think is kind of worth sharing because it's rare to encapsulate the failure of a presidency in to one day, the inaugural day. inauguration day. i would say that would be jimmy carter. whatever you think of jimmy carter's politics, the ideology, it wasn't a very successful presidency. and the roots of it sort of evident on the day of the inauguration for two reasons. first, his staff kind of bungled the, you know, showing proper deference to the speaker of the house, tip o'neill, for instance. crucially important guy for getting the carter program through congress. he was miffed because he wasn't treated well with tickets to inaugural festivities and balls and that sort of thing. the leadership of the democratic party in congress, carter won the nomination in an end and around them understanding the new primary rules before they did. he didn't show proper de
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Jan 18, 2013 8:00pm EST
republican party of abraham lincoln. >> those extremists were alive and well this week, calling for the president's impeachment and saying president obama was acting like a king with his executive orders on gun safety. this kind of extremism gets them a 26% rating. do you think that really is what it's all about? or is it the obstruction or both? >> i think the rating is going to go down, ed. i think we're looking at potential for the republican party to be rated in the eyes of the american people much the way the entire congress is rated. do nothing and down in the teens. and as i said, that's suicide for the republican party. >> at the same retreat today, republicans were told by a pollster to stop talking about rape. pretty good advice, i would say. is this because the extremism takes over the discussion when republicans do try to talk about issues as sensitive as that? >> in many respects some of them do not know how to talk about it, ed. you heard what colin powell said, what you played there. i've heard what colin powell has said for the past 20 years or so about racism in
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Jan 15, 2013 2:00am PST
. former president clinton introduced the movie "lincoln," and then former senator john introduced "house of lies." julianne moore, she won for playing sarah palin. see, the foreign press realized the greatest challenge in hollywood, pretending to be a republican. so they hand out these awards. >> but i said, doctor, i'm cal calling to thank you very much. 13 years ago you saved my life. he said, well, dave, it seemed like a good idea at the time. i had five bypasses. five bypasses. yeah, that's right. who wants to fight. five bypasses or as dick cheney likes to refer to it, a checkup. a checkup. >> "early start" continues right now. >>> finally, a confession. after years of denying it, lance armstrong has told oprah what e he's always denied to the rest of the world. >>> infected by accident. a medical mistake may have exposed hundreds of war vets to hiv. >>> and danger amid the waves. look at that. >> i know. >> a camera captures sharks lurking just yards off the beach. >> well, luckily, you know, that person's not that close, right? >> stay away from the water. stay away from the wate
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Jan 18, 2013 2:00am PST
abraham lincoln on loan from the library of congress. and a luncheon in statuary hall. it doesn't all end with the balances on monday night. on tuesday, a prayer service. several days ahead of us, several very busy days. a lot of folks asking about the weather. as of right now, the forecast for monday is a low of 25 and a high of 40, which is around about the average it's been on january 20th for the past several inaugurations. >> at least it's consistent. we know we need to bundle up. during the inauguration last time. a lot of talk about mrs. obama and sasha, malia, what they are wearing. we don't know what they are wearing, but a lot being said about a new hair style sported by mrs. obama. >> that's right. yesterday was mrs. obama's 49th birthday and they tweeted a picture of mrs. obama with a new haircut. bangs now. we don't know what she is wearing, but what her hair looks like. we will see if it starts any trends. >> berman wants a full frontal of the bangs so he can see what they looked like. that was kind of a side-view. >> that's what i said. we'll get some views. >> all right. a
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Jan 20, 2013 12:00pm PST
on the lincoln memorial. the "i have a dream" speech was that we must open the doors of all opportunity to every child born alive with the fierce urgency of now, and i think they both have that fierce urgency, but they have a vision that takes them beyond partisanship. >> that fierce urgency of now, those are words that president obama used frequently early on when he was campaigning around as well. harris wofford, good to see you. former pennsylvania senator, longtime civil rights activist and still fighting the good fight as well. thank you. >> good to be with you on this good day. >> up next, sentiments from an obama friend and longtime supporter. i spent some time in boston talking to massachusetts governor deval patrick. we'll share his thoughts on the other side of this break, and will there be poetry in his words same-sex pectations for president obama's inaugural addre address, well, they run the gamut. our brain trust has our their thoughts. that's coming up. msnbc, the place for politics. stop compromising! new vidal sassoon pro series. care and styling from the original salon genius,
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Jan 18, 2013 3:00am PST
with blanch lincoln. it's not been quite the same as the gop. i think you're going to see more of that. this is really going to play out, though, guys in 2015 and 2016, i think you'll see the fault line in the party populist versus an elite fault line. and i think you'll see him as a reformer taking on public employees, talking about having sort of tighten the belt on fiscal issues. and then you're going to see somebody who is that old-time candidate, talking about populism, holding true to the true faith. >> hey, jonathan, it's heilmann. just to play off that last point. >> yeah. >> is it not the case that if secretary clinton runs in 2016, that this division could get papered over again? she is someone who would be acceptable to both parts of the democratic -- the schism that you're talking about. so first of all, if she runs, does it get papered over again because she becomes the democratic nominee by acclamati acclamation? if they doesn't run, are there other candidates you're thinking of? >> let me take your second question first. i think those two candidates are sort of the examp
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